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I thought of making articles on all the great monks of RKM order without the prefix swami. This is to remove the ambiguity, as happened in case of Swami Ghanananda of Ghana and Swami Ghanananda of RKM. However there are 2 articles, one on Prabhavananda which was there before, and one more created by me earlier on Swami Nitya-swarup-ananda. Ramashray

Belur Math I have added one sentence only to bring the link to Belur Math.

VMO 13:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Table format[edit]

I have made the data pertaining to Periodicals into Table Format for easy reading. The Journals published by Ramakrishna Mission from various centres are given year-wise. Wherever available, links for the Website of the respective centres are also provided. VMO 13:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

History[edit]

This article desperately needs an expanded History section. Currently it appears as if the only history of the Mission is a lawsuit, which of course is only a minor detail in the history. There is a book called something like "History of the Ramakrishna Math and Mission," although I don't have access to that book at the momemt. HeBhagawan 03:27, 9 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, the lawsuit fact is indeed a minor one and featuring it as the very second para seems to give it undue importance in the long history of the organisation. Why can't we just title it as "Minority claim" and place it after the "See also" para so that History para can be suitably expanded in due course. — VMO 05:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How about placing it near the bottom of the article in a new section called "controversies?" Many articles have such a section? HeBhagawan 14:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed. — VMO 14:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Belur Math not Calcutta[edit]

For accuracy sake: the HQ is located in Belur of District Howrah across the Ganga river and not in Kolkata though nearer to it. — VMO 15:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Names of Monks[edit]

Perhaps some consensus could be formed about naming of monks. Many articles are given with the prefix "Swami" (including Swami Vivekananda); many others are given without. It looks like a lot of work to fix all the entries, either way. I would be slightly in favour of keeping the "Swami" prefix. After all, the monks are known that way to most people; their books carry their names that way too. Then again, giving only the "ananda" name has a certain alacrity. Britannica has an entry for "Vivekananda". I am not familiar with the Ghanananda controversy referred to by Ramashray. Sw.my 02:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Most of the articles themselves refer to them by title. Ramashray (above) suggests that the Swami prefix may result in ambiguity in some cases. But I don't think that removing the Swami prefix from one monk is the right solution. If there are two monks called Swami Ghanananda, then it would be better to create a disambiguation page, and create two articles Swami Ghanananda (Ghana) and Swami Ghanananda (RKM) --RichardVeryard 09:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have now moved the African Swami to Swami Ghanananda (Ghana), and created the necessary disambiguation pages/links. --RichardVeryard 10:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heads and Prominent Monks[edit]

I have created a category called Category:Monks of the Ramakrishna Mission. Presumably everyone associated with the Mission should be classified either here or in the Category:Heads of the Ramakrishna Mission. Where does Swami Vivekananda himself belong - does he not count as one of the heads of the mission? --RichardVeryard 09:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Usually Swami Brahmananda is called the first president of the Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission. But Swami Vivekananda himself wrote that he had "resigned the presidentship". Which would make him actually the first president. The organization refers to its "head" as the President of the Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission. I don't know if that should be reflected in the category "heads" (as, say, "Presidents of the Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission"). Sw.my 12:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heads of the Ramakrishna Mission would belong also in Monks of the Ramakrishna Mission, since only Monks of the Mission would become head of it. Sw.my 09:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merge Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission articles?[edit]

How do editors feel about merging the pages Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission into one page Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission? The two organizations are inextricably linked, and form, more or less, one unit, as it were. This would be more concise, and make the relation between the "twin organizations" clearer. Sw.my 09:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, its better to merge the two articles, into The Ramakrishna Math and MissionNvineeth talk 10:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Even the article Ramakrishna Order can be merged here. — Nvineeth talk 10:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think it makes a lot of sense to have two articles ,as the two organisations have very clear differences in focus and membership. The two articles already interlink. One is for the monastic order. The other for lay people, though monks may be members. What purpose would be served by merging them?
--84.82.151.107 (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, as I understand it, the monks of the Ramakrishna Math are in full control of the Ramakrishna Mission, and the centres of the Ramakrishna Mission are all staffed primarily or exclusively by monks. Though the Mission has laypeople, it is for social service, and monks are in full control of it.
It is not clear to me (or, I bet, to most people) what exactly the difference between the two organizations is. One reason may be that the term "Ramakrishna Mission", in addition to referring specifically to the registered society that performs social service with monks and laypeople participating, is also widely used to refer to the Ramakrishna Order in general, and even to centres that belong to the Ramakrishna Math but not Mission. (For example, we have categories, "Monks of the Ramakrishna Mission", "Heads of the Ramakrishna Mission", though that could be better named "Monks of the Ramakrishna Math" etc.) I don't know whether every monk of the Math is also a monk of the Mission? It seems so. So merging the articles would put everything in one place. Devadaru (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The distinction between the Ramakrishna Math and the Ramakrishna Mission is simple - the Math is aligned towards promoting the religious and spiritual principles while the Mission is committed towards social service such as medical, education and relief work. The management of the two seemingly distinct organizations are essentially the same. Even the posts are named like "President of the Ramakrishna Math and Mission". So it makes a lot of sense to have the two articles merged, with one paragraph providing the above mentioned difference between the goals of the two organizations. Sumit Kumar (talk) 12:44, 20 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Murder attempt by Ramakrishna Mutt[edit]

Below is a pre legal notice sent to Ramakrishna Mutt related to a murder attempt. The saints are yet to answer on why they are so cruel and why they are not returning the money and when they will apologise for murder attempt.

To: Swami Vimurtananda Manager Sri Ramakrishna Math Mylapore, Chennai 600 004. India

           Legal notice for action against cheating and attempt to murder

Dear Sir/Madam

              The incident that happened on 2012-2014,Involving the murder attempt of my client  Ms. Thangeswari . This is a very huge criminal case which will not be permitted in our society and serious action will be taken. In view of this you need to do all necessary step that will be listed above and, if you do not follow all the necessary instructions within 10 days their will be a penalty for it 

Firstly

1. You need to stop threatening my client Ms. Thangeswari because she has done nothing wrong than been loyal to you

2. You need to return all the Money you stole from her as soon as possible I.E a sum of 3,14,949 INR Should be returned in 10days

3. The sum of 3,14,949 INR should be returned to this account 021201521198 with immediate effect.

4. You will also need to apologize to my humble client for giving her such stress and for trying to kill her .

5. You need to return all the following details to my client A . Gmail details B. Facebook details

    6.  Any form of harassment should against my client should stop.

7. You must not lay your hands on her or her family, if anything happens to my client or her family it won’t be easy for you


Like I said if the following is not done there will be a penalty for this.My penalty are:

1. You will be charged to court and you will be sentence to life imprisonment for attempting murder. 2. If your are unable to return the funds your whole property will be hold by the court and you will be left with nothing.

3. Your image will be tarnished

4. If you try to run out of the country your pictures are everywhere and police are on your case.

5. Their are enough evidence against you, I have a video with me which shows how you almost killed my client, if you love your self return all the necessary things and your image will be safe just 10 days to do so.

6. I have lots of information which is enough for me to arrest you if you do not do as instructed.

Note: My Client will be waiting expectantly for the amount and unexplained delay in payment of the same has caused her sickness and lots of damage. You are responsible for this and she holds the same against you.

My Client shall proceed in accordance with law and take appropriate legal actions against your Company. It is expected that timely action on your part will mitigate the need to resort to lengthy and expensive legal proceedings.

A copy of this notice is kept with me for future reference and you are requested to keep the original intact with you as you can be asked to produce the same before any court of law, if the need so arises. This is without prejudice to all other rights of My Client against you and/or against your property under civil and/or criminal laws.


Advocate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice Wins Always (talkcontribs) 16:49, 19 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]